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Here is the latest from pprune:

Unread 28th Sep 2013, 10:10   #1545 (permalink)
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More ammo for Nick’s FRMS & CAO 48.1 disallowance motion!!

Remember this (and Creamy’s education on Senate ‘Disallowance Motions’)??

DMCAO 48.1

Well apparently EASA have similar issues to FF on new proposed rules (from Aviation-Safety NET article):

BALPA claims half of pilots have fallen asleep while flying
27 September 2013

The British Airline Pilots Association (BALPA) released findings of survey, claiming half of pilots have fallen asleep while flying.

On September 30 the European Parliament’s transport committee will vote on a European Commission proposal to tighten and standardise flight time limits for pilots across the European Union. This proposal has been under fire from European pilots unions for several months.

On September 26, the British Airline Pilots Association (BALPA), released the findings of a survey on flight time limits. Of the 500 commercial pilots that participated, 56% say they have fallen asleep on the flight deck and of those who admitted this, nearly 1 in 3 (29%) said they woke to find the other pilot asleep.

Also, 31% don’t believe their airline has a culture that lends itself to reporting tiredness concerns with a half (51%) saying they believed their airline Chief Executive would back them if they refused to fly because of tiredness.

Jim McAuslan, General Secretary of BALPA, said about these findings: “Tiredness is already a major challenge for pilots who are deeply concerned that unscientific new EU rules will cut UK standards and lead to increased levels of tiredness, which has been shown to be a major contributory factor in air accidents.”

EASA has previoulsy issued a statement on the concerns voiced by the European Cockpit Association, stating amongst others: “More than 50 scientific studies were analysed, with a particular focus on the effects of disruptive schedule, while all concerned stakeholder groups including flight and cabin crew organisations, airlines, and Member State representatives were consulted throughout the process.”

More information:

Perhaps more fuel to the fire that the Senators, ably led by Nick, have already lit and another potential headache for the DAS and his GWM cronies??


Why would it take CAsA more than 4 months to still not respond to a relatively simple question from Sen Fawcett in relation to an even more basic task of purchasing some I.T??

I think the Senator is having the pi#s taken out of him by these clowns who see fit not to show an ounce of accountability to anybody.

To be fair to the DAS, FF are not on their Pat Malone when it comes to being unresponsive to outstanding QONs from Senate Estimates. In fact if you take a look at Kingcrat’s whole remit you will see none have responded…


A quick flick through other Government Departments response to Estimate QONs makes the above webpage link extremely embarrassing for the DoIT Crats. Here is a couple of examples:

Parliamentary Depts

ps Slight thread drift..interesting article by Ben on the possible safety advantages of inflight WIFI use. Which was on the back of upcoming recommendations on the relaxing of restrictions on the use of PEDs (in flight) by the FAA.

Comet’s comment makes common sense(there’s a rhyme!):

Lots of things don’t make sense.
1. Why aren’t electronic components on flights shielded from electromagnetic radiation such as Wi-Fi? It’s not that hard to shield against. Mobile phones have been in common use since the mid-1980s. Why haven’t they done it?
2. Although car radio broadcasts in road tunnels can be interrupted to play emergency messages, I can’t see any way for that to happen over Wi-Fi, as computer users aren’t watching an incoming audio/video stream that can be interrupted.
3. Why is the FAA thinking of regulating what activity you can do with your Wi-Fi on a plane (NYTimes reports that watching podcasts and videos on takeoff will be allowed, but sending emails will be banned… huh?)
4. How on earth do false collision alarms get triggered by passenger Wi-Fi? They’re not on the same frequency. The passenger Wi-Fi is very week at that distance. Sounds like a scapegoat.
5. Pilots themselves use their mobile phones on landing, as we saw with Jetstar in Singapore.
On a recent Emirates flight over the Indian Ocean, I held my tablet computer in the vicinity of a window, and it registered a GPS location, which I was sharing with other people around the world. My tablet actually sent its location out via the inflight Wi-Fi system. If that had been Air France AF447, I would not be writing this post, but they would have found the wreckage a lot quicker than what they did!

Hmm..wonder how long it will take FF to catch up with the good old ‘US of A’, maybe a while given the comments from CAsA’s mouthpiece:

Australia’s Civil Aviation Safety Authority will watch the US administration’s recommendations and subsequent decision closely. ”We need to wait and see what the advisory panel recommends and then what the FAA decides to do and when,” CASA spokesman Peter Gibson said. ”It is likely to take some time for the FAA to make changes.”
But because the Australian agency hadn’t yet seen the recommendations, it was ”a way off yet” before changes, if any, would be implemented in Australia.
It is understood some Australian airlines have already approached the agency to change the rules, but their requests were rejected. The authority has a number of concerns about devices becoming distractions during safety briefings, or turning into projectiles.

“Take some time”…err “wait and see” (try sometime in the next decade!) being the operative words . But the last paragraph (in bold) perhaps takes the cake for how out of touch and in the dark ages is our beloved third world regulator!

Last edited by Sarcs; 28th Sep 2013 at 18:02.

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